{"id":5148,"date":"2023-02-12T21:05:13","date_gmt":"2023-02-12T20:05:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/?page_id=5148"},"modified":"2023-02-12T21:09:04","modified_gmt":"2023-02-12T20:09:04","slug":"helena-rill-kompleksne-putanje-ljudskih-sudbina-mogu-li-se-naucno-prepoznati-treci-deo","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/helena-rill-kompleksne-putanje-ljudskih-sudbina-mogu-li-se-naucno-prepoznati-treci-deo\/","title":{"rendered":"HELENA RILL, KOMPLEKSNE PUTANJE LJUDSKIH SUDBINA: MOGU LI SE NAU\u010cNO PREPOZNATI? TRE\u0106I DEO"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"has-text-align-right wp-block-paragraph\">Slovenika VIII (2022) 171-186<br>Pregledni rad<br>UDK: 316.728:314.15.044-055.2(497.4)(093.3)<br>392.61(497.4:497.11)(093.3)<br>Primljeno \/ Prejeto \/ Received: 28. 05. 2022.<br>Prihva\u0107eno \/ Sprejeto \/ Accepted: 07. 12. 2022.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Helena_Rill.pdf\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/Helena_Rill.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u010clanak (PDF) | \u010clanek (PDF) | Paper (PDF)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right wp-block-paragraph\">DOI: <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.18485\/slovenika.2022.8.1.7\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.18485\/slovenika.2022.8.1.7<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Helena Rill<br><\/strong>Centar za nenasilnu akciju (CNA)<br>Beograd, Srbija<br><a href=\"mailto:Helena.rill@gmail.com\">Helena.rill@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Kompleksne putanje ljudskih sudbina: mogu li se nau\u010dno prepoznati? Tre\u0107i deo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Ovde mi je sve<\/em><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Sa\u017eetak<\/em>: Rad i razgovor koji sledi predstavljaju nastavak istra\u017eivanja migracija iz Slovenije u Srbiju primenom metode usmenih intervjua, tj. razgovora sa \u017eenama, sa ciljem da se osvetli intimni, li\u010dni do\u017eivljaj migracionih procesa. Ono \u0161to je interesantno za ovaj intervju jeste odstupanje od standardne metodologije usmenih intervjua, koje se ogleda u pojavljivanju tre\u0107e sagovornice \u2013 \u0107erke, \u010diji \u0107e dijalog s majkom obogatiti \u010ditavu atmosferu i dodati tre\u0107u dimenziju ovom razgovoru. U ovoj li\u010dnoj, veoma toploj pri\u010di neosporno pitanje koje ostaje i kao teorijski problem jeste uticaj politi\u010dkih procesa na pojedince, ne samo u smislu neposrednog uticaja na li\u010dne sudbine ve\u0107 i na pre svega interakciju sa drugim ljudima \u010diji se stavovi, pa \u010dak i li\u010dni odnosi, menjaju u skladu sa dru\u0161tvenom klimom. To je neretko bio slu\u010daj s bujanjem nacionalisti\u010dkih ideja po\u010detkom devedesetih godina dvadesetog veka na jugoslovenskim prostorima, kada se pitanje endogenog i egzogenog identiteta nanovo postavljalo i redefinisalo. Re\u010d je, dakle, o identitetu koji ljudi ose\u0107aju i onaj koji je spolja pripisan. Osim teorijskih rasprava, mo\u017eda je najdragoceniji na\u010din za razumevanje kompleksnosti ovog problema upravo li\u010dna pri\u010da.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Klju\u010dne re\u010di<\/em>: usmeni intervju, sagovornice, politi\u010dki procesi, individualna sudbina, endogeni i egzogeni identitet<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Helena Rill<br><\/strong>Center za nenasilno akcijo (CNA)<br>Beograd, Srbija<br><a href=\"mailto:Helena.rill@gmail.com\">Helena.rill@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">KOMPLEKSNE POTI \u010cLOVE\u0160KIH USOD: JIH JE MOGO\u010cE ZNANSTVENO PREPOZNATI? TRETJI DEL<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Tukaj mi je vse<\/em><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Povzetek<\/em>: Prispevek in pogovor, ki sledita, sta nadaljevanje raziskave migracij iz Slovenije v Srbijo, z uporabo metode ustnih intervjujev, oz. pogovorov z \u017eenskami, z namenom, da bi se razsvetlila intimna, osebna do\u017eivetja migracijskih procesov. Kar je zanimivo v zvezi s tem intervjujem, je odstopanje od standardne metodologije ustnih intervjujev, ki je razvidno iz navzo\u010dnosti tretje sogovornice \u2013 h\u010derke, katere dialog z materjo obogati celotno vzdu\u0161je in doda tretjo dimenzijo temu pogovoru. V tej osebni, zelo topli zgodbi, je nesporno vpra\u0161anje, ki ostane tudi kot teoreti\u010dni problem, vpliv politi\u010dnih procesov na posameznika, ne samo v smislu neposrednega vpliva na osebne usode, temve\u010d predvsem na interakcijo z drugimi ljudmi, katerih stali\u0161\u010da in celo osebni odnosi se spreminjajo v skladu z dru\u017ebeno klimo. To je pogosto bil primer z izbruhom nacionalisti\u010dnih idej v za\u010detku devetdesetih let na jugoslovanskem prostoru, ko se je vpra\u0161anje endogene in eksogene identitete nanovo zastavi in redefinira. Gre torej za identiteto, katero ljudje \u010dutijo in tisto, ki je pripisana od zunaj. Poleg teoreti\u010dnih razprav je morda najbolj dragocen na\u010din za razumevanje kompleksnosti tega problema ravno osebna zgodba.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Klju\u010dne besede<\/em>: ustni intervju, sogovornici, politi\u010dni procesi, individualna usoda, endogena in eksogena identiteta<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Helena Rill<br><\/strong>Centre for Nonviolent Action (CNA)<br>Belgrade, Serbia<br><a href=\"mailto:Helena.rill@gmail.com\">Helena.rill@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">COMPLEX TRAJECTORIES OF HUMAN DESTINIES: IS IT POSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY THEM USING SCIENTIFIC METHODS? PART 3<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Everything I Have Is Here<\/em><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Abstract<\/em>: The paper and the conversation that follows continue the research on migration from Slovenia to Serbia using the method of oral interviews, i.e. conversations with women, with the aim of shedding light on the intimate, personal experience of migration processes. What is interesting about this interview is the deviation from the standard methodology of oral interviews, reflected in the presence of a third interlocutor \u2013 a daughter, whose dialogue with her mother enriches the overall atmosphere and adds a third dimension to this conversation. In this personal, warm story, the indisputable question that also lingers as a theoretical problem is the influence of political processes on individuals, not only in the sense of direct influence on personal destinies but also on interaction with other people whose attitudes and even personal relationships get changed depending on the social climate. This was often the case with the rise of nationalist ideas at the beginning of the 1990s in Yugoslavia, when the question of endogenous and exogenous identity was raised and redefined. These are namely the identity that one feels and that which is assigned from the outside. Apart from theoretical discussions, personal stories are perhaps the most effective way to understand the complexity of this problem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Keywords<\/em>: oral interviews, female interlocutors, political processes, individual destinies, endogenous identity, exogenous identity<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Slovenika VIII (2022) 171-186Pregledni radUDK: 316.728:314.15.044-055.2(497.4)(093.3)392.61(497.4:497.11)(093.3)Primljeno \/ Prejeto \/ Received: 28. 05. 2022.Prihva\u0107eno \/ Sprejeto \/ Accepted: 07. 12. 2022.\u010clanak (PDF) | \u010clanek (PDF) | Paper (PDF) DOI: https:\/\/doi.org\/10.18485\/slovenika.2022.8.1.7 Helena RillCentar za nenasilnu akciju (CNA)Beograd, SrbijaHelena.rill@gmail.com Kompleksne putanje ljudskih sudbina: mogu li se nau\u010dno prepoznati? Tre\u0107i deo Ovde mi je sve Sa\u017eetak: Rad i razgovor [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-5148","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","post"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/5148","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5148"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/5148\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5157,"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/5148\/revisions\/5157"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/slovenci.rs\/sl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5148"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}